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1989: Ted Bundy, psycho killer

January 24th, 2009 Headsman

Qu’est-ce que c’est?

It was 20 years today that Ted Bundy, the signature sexual psychopath in a golden age of serial killers,* rode the lightning in Florida’s Starke Prison.

Executed Today is pleased to mark the occasion with a conversation with Louisville crime writer Kevin M. Sullivan, author of a forthcoming2009 book on Ted Bundy … and a man who knows how the world looks from inside Bundy’s ski mask.


Ted Bundy is obviously one of the most iconic, written-about serial killers in history. Why a book about Ted Bundy? What’s the untold story that you set out to uncover?

The desire, or drive, if you will, to write an article about Ted Bundy and then create a 120,000 plus word book about the murders, was born out of my crossing paths with his infamous murder kit. Had Jerry Thompson [a key detective on the Bundy case -ed.] left Bundy’s stuff in Utah that May of 2005, well, it would have been an enjoyable meeting with the former detective, but I’m certain it would have all ended quietly there. Indeed, I doubt if I’d even considered writing an article for Snitch [a now-defunct crime magazine -ed.], much less a book about the killings. But it was having all that stuff in my hands, and in my home, and then being given one of the Glad bags from Ted’s VW that made it very real (or surreal) to me, and from this, a hunger to find out more about the crimes led me forward.


Ted Bundy’s gear, right where you want it — image courtesy of Kevin M. Sullivan. (Check the 1975 police photo for confirmation.)

Believe me, in a thousand years, I never would have expected such a thing to ever come my way. I can’t think of anything more odd or surreal.

ET: You mentioned that you think you’ve been able to answer some longstanding questions about Bundy’s career. Can you give us some hints? What don’t people know about Ted Bundy that they ought to know?

I must admit, when I first decided to write a book about the crimes, I wasn’t sure what I’d find, so the first thing I had to do was read every book ever written about Bundy, which took the better portion of three or four months.

From this I took a trip to Utah to again meet with Thompson and check out the sites pertaining to Bundy and the murders in that state. Next came the acquisition of case files from the various states and the tracking down of those detectives who participated in the hunt for the elusive killer.

Now, no one could have been more surprised than me to begin discovering what I was discovering about some of these murders. But as I kept hunting down the right people and the right documents, I was able to confirm these “finds” at every turn. And while I cannot reveal everything here, It’s all in the book in great detail. Indeed, you could say that my book is not a biography in the truest sense, but rather an in-depth look at Bundy and the murders from a vantage point that is quite unique. I wish I could delve further into these things now , but I must wait until it’s published.

The Bundy story has a magnetic villain and a host of victims … was there a hero? Was there a lesson?

The real heroes in this story are the detectives who worked day and night for years to bring Ted Bundy to justice. And if there’s a lesson to be learned from all of this, it is this: It doesn’t matter how handsome or articulate a person might be, or how nicely they smile at you, for behind it all, there could reside the most diabolical person you’ll ever meet! We need to remember this.

But how can you act on that lesson without living in a continual state of terror? Bundy strikes me as so far outside our normal experience, even the normal experience of criminality, that I’m inclined to wonder how much can be generalized from him.

Actually, (and I might say, thank God here!) people as “successful” as Ted Bundy don’t come our way very often. I mean, the guy was a rising star in the Republican Party in Washington, had influential friends, a law student, and certainly appeared to be going places in life. Some were even quite envious of his ascension in life. However, it was all a well-placed mask that he wore to cover his true feelings and intentions. On the outside he was perfect, but on the inside a monster. He just didn’t fit the mold we’re used to when we think of a terrible killer, does he?

Now, there are those among us — sociopaths — who can kill or do all manner of terrible things in life and maintain the nicest smile upon their faces, but again, just beneath the surface ticks the heart of a monster, or predator, or what ever you might want to call them. Having said that, I’m not a suspicious person by nature, and so I personally judge people by their outward appearance until shown otherwise. Still, it’s difficult (if not impossible) to see the “real” individual behind the person they present to us on a daily basis.

You worked with case detectives in researching your book. How did the Ted Bundy case affect the way law enforcement has subsequently investigated serial killers? If they had it to do over again, what’s the thing you think they’d have done differently?

They all agree that today, DNA would play a part of the investigation that wasn’t available then. However, in the early portion of the murders, Bundy made few if any mistakes, as he had done his homework so as to avoid detection. As such, even this wouldn’t be a panacea when it came to a very mobile killer like Bundy who understood the very real limitations sometimes surrounding homicide investigations.

I can’t help but ask about these detectives as human beings, too. Clearly they’re in a position to deal with the heart of darkness in the human soul day in and day out and still lead normal lives … is a Ted Bundy the kind of killer that haunts or scars investigators years later, or is this something most can set aside as all in a day’s work?

They are, first of all, very nice people. And you can’t be around them (either in person, or through numerous phone calls or emails) for very long before you understand how dedicated they are (or were) in their careers as police officers. They are honorable people, with a clear sense of duty, and without such people, we, as a society, would be in dire circumstances indeed.

Even before Bundy came along, these men were veteran investigators who had seen many bad things in life, so they carried a toughness which allowed them to deal with the situations they came up against in a professional manner. That said, I remember Jerry Thompson telling me how he looked at Ted one day and thought how much he reminded him of a monster, or a vampire of sorts. And my book contains a number of exchanges between the two men (including a chilling telephone call) which demonstrate why he felt this way

How about for you, as a writer — was there a frightening, creepy, traumatic moment in your research that really shook you? Was there an emotional toll for you?

Absolutely. But the degree of “shock”, if you will, depends (at least for me) on what I know as I first delve into each murder. In the Bundy cases I had a general knowledge of how Bundy killed, so there wasn’t a great deal that caught me by surprise, as it were. Even so, as a writer, you tend to get to know the victims very well through the case files, their family members or friends, and so on. Hence, I’ll continue to carry with me many of the details of their lives and deaths for the remainder of my life. And so, lasting changes are a part of what we do.

However, I did a story a few years back about a 16 year old girl who was horribly murdered here in Kentucky, and this case did cause me to wake up in the night in a cold sweat. Perhaps it was because I have a daughter that was, at the time, only a few years younger than this girl, and that some of what transpired did catch me off guard, so to speak, as I began uncovering just what had happened to this very nice kid.

Watch for Kevin M. Sullivan’s forthcoming The Bundy Murders: A Comprehensive History from McFarland in summer or fall of 2009.

* In fact, the term “serial killer” was coined in the 1970’s by FBI profiler Robert Ressler, as an improvement on the sometimes inaccurate category of “stranger killer”.


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8,408 thoughts on “1989: Ted Bundy, psycho killer”

  1. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    @Stephen: I picked up my “Phantom” at a Half-Price Books in late 2005 just prior to starting research on the Bundy book. It was priced at $5.98, and it proved invaluable after I began the book. Sorry to say, with the scanning they do these days in the book stores, I don’t expect to find another copy at that price; unless, of course, I start hitting yard sales, etc.

  2. Stephen J Giannangelo says:

    Regarding a belated question a page back that Kevin discovered, I know that I would not be interested in parting with my copy of “The Phantom Prince.”

    In 1992 when I took my first “Serial Murder” class with renowned expert Steven Egger, he said he would be eternally grateful is someone ever found “the Phantom Prince” for him. I took it as a challenge and it was pretty tough even back then. I lucked into finding it on the bottom shelf, mislabeled at an antique book store in St Louis’ University City. I gave that one to Dr. Egger.

    The next copy was just as difficult to find, so I say you will have to keep searching!

  3. Richard A. Duffus says:

    Thanks, Matt. You explained the repressed gay rage theory much better than I ever could. And thanks everybody for sharing your views.

    Regarding the handwriting. Lewis always signed Bundy’s name, except, I believe, on the one sketch with a printed signature. Bundy does have a history of disguised handwriting and the bodies of the letters show similarities to Bundy’s known handwriting. For example, the capital H’s in the first letter I received are formed the same way as in the name “Hawkins” printed on the map given to Keppel. But it would require a competent handwriting expert to ascertain whether or not Bundy wrote the letters.

    Lewis’ veracity is cartainly a major piece of all of this. That being the case, I have gone to great lengths to verify what I’ve learned from him. I’ve found him credible.

    Why am I so emphatic about the souvenirs? Serial killers are obsessive about their souvenirs. If they do in fact exist and can be found intact, then most of the victims can probably be identified and, in some cases, bodies can be brought home. Dozens of cases where Bundy is a suspect can be refocused if he can be eliminated. So I do care if Bundy left something behind.

  4. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Richard–see, I told you it would spark sales, LOL!

  5. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hey Jason.

    No, we will never know for a certainty, but going to those bars probably had nothing to do with sex or attraction to men. I know Bundy often played “head games” with people, and that may have been just another game. But who knows?

  6. Shelley says:

    Good comments, Jason and Matt! Oh, I am so frustrated having to wait for the book. It’s driving me nuts. LOL

  7. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hi matt! Glad you check in so often!

    Good points. And I’m glad you said you weren’t put off by my comments, and I think it’s great you want to read the book (I told Richard, this conversation could spark sales!).

    Personally, it wouldn’t matter to me one way or another if Bundy was homosexual, as it wouldn’t have been that aspect of him driving him to commit the murders. That said, I don’t believe he was gay, per the lack of evidence.

    From what I can tell, the purported Bundy letters Richard has in his book, do not, in my opinion, lend themselves to the killer’s authorship. They do not, in any way, resemble the communication one would expect from Bundy. Again, just my opinion.

    Anyway, let us know what you think after reading it.

    See ya,

    Kevin

  8. Matt says:

    Surely if the letters Richard recieved contain Bundys signature/common writing patterns they can be conclusivley confirmed as Bundys? I recall reading somewhere that Bobby Lewis was uneducated and childlike in terms of his writing and verbal abilities, making it near impossibile for him to impersonate Bundys advanced vocubulary and writing skills.

    As for the whole repressed gay rage theory, im certainly open minded towards it. The stigma of being gay was rife throughout Bundys life, and him admitting he was gay would both destroy his in control republician family man mask to those that knew him as friends or through professional means and be met with repulsion and disguist by his traditionally christian mother, who saw him as the quintessential ‘perfect son’. Essentially, a gay Bundy would be a failed Bundy in societys eyes and in the eyes of those that knew him, thus, if he was gay it would be impossible for him to admit/express it. Whilst Bundy the mask appeared to be thoroughly hetrosexual, the real bundy, the psychopathic maniac didnt express normal hetrosexual tendencies. Whilst he did abduct pretty middle class all American girls, all possesing the desirable traits in terms of what a standard hetrosexual male was attracted to in that era, rather than forcing them to have sex with him or making them perform sexual acts on him he preferred them dead. Is someone who has sex with rotting female corpses driven by a hetrosexual urge? Perhaps this is the real Bundys way of rejecting the idea that he should be attracted to pretty all american girls like a normal hetrosexual of that era, instead he despises them and finds them repulsing, they personify the things that society deems he is meant to be attracted too to be successful but he isnt. Rather, the pleasure he derives from abducting them is not driven by a twisted hetrosexual pathological urge but from a twisted homosexual pathological urge, and him having sex with his victims once dead is not a example of his twisted hetrosexual desires but the desires of his real twisted homosexual urges, he is in essence saying ‘I find a rotting indistinguishable corpse more attractive than a plump attractive middle class white girl, this is the real me!’. Hypothetically if Bundy is gay he sees his everyday hetrosexual relationships as nothing more than a platform to solidify his republican family man mask and as a tool for manipulation. I recall reading how he enjoyed ‘showing off’ his first girlfriend, as she represented everything that society considered desirable in a woman at that time, attractive/wealthy etc. Rather than being attracted to his first girlfriend through normal hetrosexual urges and emotions such as love, he was attracted to what she represented and how the traits she represented could be used to his advantage. Having someone who posesses these traits puts him on a proverbial pedestal so to speak, he can show her off as one may show off a trophy, with the mindset of ‘Look at what I can get, this represents how succesfull I am’.

    Naturally no hard indisputable evidence points to Bundy being homosexual, and having read your book Kevin you are a man driven soley by the indisputable facts that are avaliable to you, and write only what the facts or reported truths can confirm. You posses a investigatory writing style, you do not speculate on things that may/may not have happened without a source, you only go with the things you know happened based on the hardcore facts. No doubt reading a Bundy book based on something which cannot be confirmed by indisputable evidence was infuriating to you, as it clashes so profusely with you investigatory fact based style. All in all, your review has not put me off the book at all, infact I am now more intrigued. I think with the inclusion of Richards different take on the Bundy saga via his Felons hook, alongside both your exhaustively researched and documented The Bundy murders and the almost biographical The only Living Witness I will have the complete trio of Bundy books needed to satisfy my intrest in the individual for the forseeable future, just waiting for the felons hook to be released on kindle.

    Sorry for rambling, check up on here 3-4 times a month as it makes for a fascinating read and actually helps motivate me for my psychology classes (lol). Keep it up all!

  9. Jason Nelson says:

    We should take into account that Bundy was a master at keeping details hidden from other people and it is well known that he took many secrets to the grave with him (both to do with and outside his murders). Maybe there was a curiosity about liking men or he was bisexual but Bundy was surely not a full-on gay man. Lets remember that 90% of his murders were sex-related so a sexual attraction to women was there.
    In the 1970s, was it normal for a straight man to regularly go into gay bars? without the intention of meeting someone? It does seem suspicious why a man like Bundy, who was apparently highly attractive to women, would choose to go to gay bars where there would be men who would likely be interested in him? As I said in the beginning, he kept so much information to himself that I don’t believe we will ever get the full story.

  10. Diana says:

    Bundy wanted murderous sex with the type of person that he thought were the most typically desired sexually. To him (and to most heterosexual males at this time) that image was a slender curvy woman with long hair and attractive facial features. This was the image he perceived as being the most valued because this was the image most men responded to. It was the image on most pornographic magazines and movies. He obviously wanted to KILL that image because most of his victims fell into this catergory. I think that Killing this type of woman gave him a great sense of power because he was taking the most “valued” type of woman and destroying her.

    Now was he actually attracted to this type of woman OR was he attracted to the idea of murdering this type of woman?? That’s an interesting question.

    Whether or not Bundy was harboring a secret gay side, I can’t say for sure, but if we look at the other BIG serial killer cases, the victims of homosexual killers tend to be boys and men.

    We also cant forget that Bundy enjoyed necrophiliac sex with the corpses of these women. He definitely got aroused by the sight and feel of a dead woman.

  11. bart says:

    Sorry, I haven’t already read Richard’s book, but I don’t believe personally Bundy was gay or even cripto-gay.
    To me, his visits to gay bars was part of his mask of sanity – cool, tolerant person – nothing more.
    But, in my opinion, Bundy’s real or undercover sexual orientation doesn’t matter.
    He was *just* a lust killer targeted at young woman.

  12. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hi Shelley. Yes, that’s true, so there is no way for us to categorically say one way or another. That said, we do know he had a great deal of heterosexual sex. But we can’t find one instance where it can be said he had homosexual sex. This may not be a 100% indicator, but it is an indicator.

    Also, a very long time ago in this thread (don’t ask me where, as there’s over a million words in this thread) I told of finding statements in the record from Bundy’s Washington State days, that the police thought Bundy might be gay based on his trips to some gay bars in Utah. They seemed really determined, and then it completely disappeared from the record. I mean completely stopped. Why? Well, it’s my suspicion that they ran into a brick wall due to a lack of evidence.

    When writing my book I literally read through thousands of pages of the official record of this case. It covered records from all the states Bundy committed murders. In all of this (outside of the comments mentioned above) absolutely nothing can be found pointing to Bundy either being homosexual, bisexual, or having committed homosexual acts. as such, I would say the weight of evidence leans strongly against Bundy being homosexual or committing acts associated with that type of sexual activity.

  13. Shelley says:

    Just a comment: Who people have sex with doesn’t necessarily indicate their sexual orientation. History is full of stories of gay people trying to live the life they thought they *should* as hetrosexuals. Even today it’s hard to be gay. I am hetrosexual so I don’t know personally but just watching some of my daughter’s friends who are gay and what they went through growing up…it’s still not easy. AND 30 years ago!! It was far worse! Bundy was a 50’s kid.

  14. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    “even he he was that way” should read “even if he…”

    “I have no proof that Lewis didn’t perpetrate a fraud and a scam concerning all of this, and I have no proof he didn’t”
    Should “…and I have no proof he did”

  15. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hello Richard…

    You’re correct. It is one man’s opinion, and this is what I said in an above post. Indeed, if I wasn’t the moderator of this site, I would not be in a position to answer questions. But the fact is, I am in that position. As such, I have a responsibility to answer questions as they appear. That said, some points:

    1. Bundy never admitted he was gay. Not publicly, and frankly, I don’t believe privately. Even so, his necrophilia would have nothing to do with homosexuality even he he was that way. However, WE DO KNOW BUNDY HAD SEX WITH LOTS OF WOMEN. THAT IS A FACT. Now, I will not belabor the issue, and you and I can agree to disagree.

    Other points: “But he wouldn’t have destroyed them all” Oh really? How can you make such a declarative statement? You’re being very emphatic here? Why? I couldn’t care less whether Bundy did or did not leave anything behind, but again, no evidence (outside of the conjecture of the Lewis connection) exists.

    I have no proof that Lewis didn’t perpetrate a fraud and a scam concerning all of this, and I have no proof he didn’t. Even you would admit that the entire case of your book rises or falls with the veracity of (not Bundy!!!) but Bobby Lewis. As such, I just don’t see the connection.

    Having said all of this (and this is why I could not write a review or a blurb for you), I wish you well on the book. You worked very hard on it, it is properly footnoted, and your writing style is good. And, you may do very well with it! Let’s hope you do! But the questions that have started to crop up (and which sparked my answers) will continue as more people read your book. And that’s okay. So be ready to jump right in and tell your side. Others will comment, as will I as merely one participant along with you and others. Let us have a healthy debate about these things. It might even help spark additional sales.

  16. Richard A. Duffus says:

    So a happy heterosexual is someone who has sex with the dead? I’m glad I’m gay.

    Of course Ted’s visits to gay bars does not prove he was gay. His coming out is what proves it. And that is contingent on establishing that Ted was the collaborator with Lewis and the author of the “Ted Bundy” letters and sketches.

    You say, “not so,” but, speaking of conjecture, Kevin, your belief that Lewis was lying to me, “playing” me, giving me what I wanted is pure conjecture. Show me anything that supports that statement. I didn’t know who Bundy was! And when Ted appeared, I wanted him to go away. I liked what I already had.

    Furthermore, Lewis could not have perpetrated such a falsehood since it was well beyond his capabilities. He had neither the language nor the artistic skills to pull it off. And he would not have been privy to knowledge about Ted’s souvenirs or had access to the content of Ted’s outgoing mail or his personal photographs.

    Regarding the souvenirs, you only know what Ted wanted you to know. He was the sole source of information about them. If I was telling an FBI guy about them I would certainly include “I destroyed them all.” I’d be stupid not to. But he wouldn’t have destroyed them all. He worked hard to do them right. He didn’t want to forget.

    What you call the truth as you see it is simply what you believe – not necessarily what the facts are.

  17. Kevin M Sullivan says:

    Well said, Shelley.

  18. Shelley says:

    I have ordered the book from .com but it’s going to be a long wait. You would think I was on the other side of the world instead just a bit north!! :-)

    Meanwhile, things I have learned that may help:
    The sexuality of a person with psychopathic traits is quite a bit different from ‘normal’ people. Ex. Gacy was married (twice) with kids. What does that mean? What’s up with that?

    Anger and frustration will be expressed differently by different people and will be affected by other accompanyng psychological issues. Targets of anger can be quite removed from the source of the anger. (displaced)

    Enough said…I just know I will keep an open mind. I may not agree with everything a person says (I don’t even agree with myself at times – lol) but there is always something worth listening to and thinking about.

  19. anka says:

    Kevin!

    It would be cool if they were interviewing Stephanie Brooks, Meg Anders, Carol Ann and daughter but i guees that is imposible

    take care

  20. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Diana– I know Richard won’t like me saying this, but I believe Lewis was “playing” him; that is, giving him what he wanted. As I said above, Richard can’t be faulted for Lewis lying to him, but this is what I believe happened.

    Bundy destroyed the photographs. I believe this completely. Now, here is what I mean about taking conjecture, adding some theories, adding more conjecture, and then declaring something to be true based on this mountain of speculation. You can’t do it! If my memory serves me, Richard was basing the location of “the photographs” on some hidden meaning connected to a painting and something Lewis told him. Nothing concrete, mind you, but pure (some would say wild) speculation.

    Again, I wish Richard well, and everyone has a right to whatever theory of the case they like. His book is now out and folks interested need to read it. However, as a biographer of Theodore Bundy, and moderating this site, I have a responsibility to tell the truth (as I see it) when asked. Indeed, I’m certain this book will become a topic of conversation for awhile, and that’s okay with me also.

  21. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hi River…I think I stopped at that site a few years ago; perhaps someone directed me to it. What type of things do they have? Not that I’m in the market for additional Bundy things, ’cause I’m not, LOL! Just curious.

  22. Diana says:

    Thanks for your thoughts Kevin! I know we’ll be chatting about it soon Shelley.
    Kevin, I am curious, who do you think wrote all those letters to Richard? Do you think they were all the doing of Bobby Lewis???
    That was a very lengthy correspodence between Richard and Whoever it was.
    I was amazed that Richard went to great lengths to locate the Bundy murder photographs that he feels are hidden out there. Richard hired divers and went through many expenses to do this. I wish he had found them, it would have been an amazing ending to the book. He was taking a huge chance that these pictures exist out there because of Bundy’s cryptic letters to him. I commend him on following his intuition and hope that one day he does come across these. That would be the find of the century!

  23. River says:

    Kevin, I saw some really interesting Bundy items on Supernaught.com. Have you ever checked them out?

    Thanks,
    River

  24. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Make that “paintings” and “up” not “yup”.

  25. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hi Diana and all: (I’m answering this because of your request, Diana)

    Concerning Richard and his book I will say this:

    Richard is a part of our group and I like him. He’s a nice guy. A long time ago he sent me a copy of his book so that I could review it. I agreed to do so. After reading it I had to decline for the following reasons:

    1. He was trying to make the case that Bundy was homosexual. The book seems to be very emphatic about this. Although Bundy had on occasion visited gay bars means nothing. It does not prove he was gay. On the contrary, he enjoyed having sex with all of his girlfriends, and he enjoyed sex with his victims, the living and the dead.

    2. I understand that Bobby Lewis “knew” Bundy in prison. That said, (and I’m basing this on what I consider to be the available evidence), I DO NOT believe that Ted Bundy was communicating with Richard through Mr. Lewis. Neither do I believe that the painting contained in the book were painted by Bundy. I believe that Bobby Lewis was conveying to Richard that these things were true, but I don’t believe it.

    When writing Richard I spoke of the problems of building one conjecture after another, and one theory after another, and building a story around them. You just can’t do it; not if you are writing nonfiction. As such, there was nothing I could say or write in a review that would be beneficial to him.

    In closing, we must all make yup our minds in life about what is presented to us. No less so with Richard’s book. So, as the moderator, or “chair” of this Bundy site, I have passed along my “one man’s opinion”. I wish Richard and his book well, and I hope those interested in the Bundy case, give it a try!

  26. Shelley says:

    Hi Diana! I haven’t gotten it yet! It’s not on Amazon.CA yet. I could get the ebook from Amazon.Com but that’s not on sale yet either.

    Well, the thought had crossed my mind a few times with reading about Bundy that he may have been gay. Just different little things would trigger the idea. So, I can’t wait to see what Richard says. Then I will comment.

  27. Diana says:

    I’ve read Richard’s book “The Felon’s Hook” and I agree with what has been posted previously- It’s certainly a “Different” type of Bundy book… and I don’t know if I agree with some of it… But I would advise any of you that are fascinated by the Bundy story to get it. Some of it is really unique and really gets in to the cryptic nature of Bundy’s correspondence.
    The main issue that Richard presents is the belief that Bundy was really gay and hiding this secret caused regression that was largely responsible for some of the horrible things he did.
    What do you all think? At this point, I am having a hard time digesting that because serial killers usually kill the victims of their sexual preference. There is a sexual component involved with the violence. Bundy was aroused by bound and captive women and their corpses. He wasn’t killing men like Dahmer or Gacy (who were attracted to men). What do you all think? Richard poses an interesting theory!

  28. bart says:

    Kevin, Fiz – thanks for kind words.
    I am not in mortal danger, neither faced with death penalty.
    “Just” an economic crisis, you know what I mean.
    You have it in your States and UK, too.
    Bundy dealt with unemployment just fine, because he used others and he generally doesn’t care – his priority was murder.
    I have different priorities – God thankfully. :)
    I am still employed to be exact – but now it is not that easy to make ends meet.
    Cheers!
    Richard, give your “Felon’s Hook” to Amazon Kindle ASAP :)

  29. Fiz says:

    I think George has already done that for you, Jason. I don’t want to spoilt things for people and his review is very to the point.

  30. george mcfadden says:

    hey-
    I have read Felons Hook.It is a different kind of Bundy book.I dont agree with all of its conclusions,but it certainly offers insight ,especially on the Florida years.As such,everybody on this site should look into it.Richard knows his stuff.I read it in one day and will read it again for the additional insight that a second read gives,as I have done with your book,Kevin.It rewards every time

  31. Jason Nelson says:

    No worries Headsman. I just realised it was not seen by others because I could see the comment made myself.

    Hi Fiz. Any chance of a general overview of the book once you have finished it? It will be quite some time before I will be able to afford it.

  32. Headsman says:

    Speaking of books: a comment from Jason Nelson got caught in the spam queue for some reason a couple weeks ago and I only just noticed it. The question was, “is there anyone willing to part with their copy of Phantom Prince? Its the only Bundy book I have not read.”

    Sorry the soulless algorithms spiked that, Jason. It was nothing personal.

  33. Fiz says:

    Amazon.co .uk have told me that “Felon’s Hook” is on its way! :)

  34. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Make that “…in the traditional sense…” I was on my IPhone.

  35. Kevin M Sullivan says:

    Hi Bart, Fiz, and all…sorry to hear about problems in your life, Bart. This will get better, I’m sure. Yes, I have read Richard’s book, but I will not be reviewing it on the traditional sense. Of course, as folks begin reading it and commenting here, I’ll join in the discussion. It’s a large book and it will take awhile to read (lol) but I’m sure (because it’s a new book) it will become a point of discussion after enough folks have read it.

  36. Fiz says:

    Sorry that things are difficult for you, Bart. I can’t wait for the new books. This site and the crime pages on Facebook are ruinous to our poor bank account!

  37. bart says:

    Well, there were times I was doing much better. But Bundy is a safe and calm harbor :) when you want to relax from harsh life. :) So as I understand nobody except Richard of course has read his “Felon’s Hook” yet?

  38. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hi Bart–So many folks stop here to learn of all things Bundy, this will probably be the place most comments will appear.

    Hope you’re doing well.

  39. bart says:

    Welcome back! I am waiting impatiently for Amazon Kindle version of Richard’s book. Technical question: Where will we discuss details of this book? Here, at Kevin’s thread? Darksider? Darksider seems to be inactive to me. Or maybe on Facebook?

  40. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    Hi Anka,

    I know they recreate some scenes, and I know they’ve interviewed some individuals that have stayed away from interviews over the years. They will probably have some rare footage, but I don’t know any particulars about them.

    Good to hear from you.

  41. anka says:

    Thank you Kevin!

    I realy cant wait to see that document (eyes opener) and also i am wondering it, does they show some rare Interviews footage

  42. Kevin M. Sullivan says:

    So glad the site is back to normal!

    Anka: If I speak with Mike, I will ask him.

  43. anka says:

    Richard !

    I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And wth is with that Chasing…?? Kevin could you talk with Mike

    pa

  44. Stephen J Giannangelo says:

    Kevin, good to speak with you. I’m looking forward to reading this work on Bundy!

    Shelley, I’m always very willing to discuss the subject anywhere I can. I teach the subject in a university class and we never leave it alone! I’d be glad to offer a personal email if anyone wants it: sgvette@aol.com.

    I know people have ordered and been waiting on Amazon for my book, but others have received it directly from the publisher (Praeger).

    Sorry, Kevin, promise not to do any more commercials! Back to Bundy…

  45. Riichard A. Duffus says:

    There’s only 1 small picture of him. But there’s a bunch by him.

  46. Shelley says:

    Anka – I don’t know. Maybe Richard will see your question and answer. I do think it will be a very different type of ‘Bundy’ book. I can’t wait to read it.

  47. anka says:

    Shelley!

    do you think that in the book gonna be some new fotos of bundy?
    i mean, never seen before

    ania

  48. shelley says:

    Thanks, Anka!

  49. anka says:

    Shelley

    10 to 15 days but I bought in poland week ago

  50. Richard A. Duffus says:

    The book is there but the e-Book isn’t yet. That should be along soon.

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