1989: Ted Bundy, psycho killer

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It was 20 years today that Ted Bundy, the signature sexual psychopath in a golden age of serial killers,* rode the lightning in Florida’s Starke Prison.

Executed Today is pleased to mark the occasion with a conversation with Louisville crime writer Kevin M. Sullivan, author of a forthcoming2009 book on Ted Bundy … and a man who knows how the world looks from inside Bundy’s ski mask.

Ted Bundy is obviously one of the most iconic, written-about serial killers in history. Why a book about Ted Bundy? What’s the untold story that you set out to uncover?

The desire, or drive, if you will, to write an article about Ted Bundy and then create a 120,000 plus word book about the murders, was born out of my crossing paths with his infamous murder kit. Had Jerry Thompson [a key detective on the Bundy case -ed.] left Bundy’s stuff in Utah that May of 2005, well, it would have been an enjoyable meeting with the former detective, but I’m certain it would have all ended quietly there. Indeed, I doubt if I’d even considered writing an article for Snitch [a now-defunct crime magazine -ed.], much less a book about the killings. But it was having all that stuff in my hands, and in my home, and then being given one of the Glad bags from Ted’s VW that made it very real (or surreal) to me, and from this, a hunger to find out more about the crimes led me forward.


Ted Bundy’s gear, right where you want it — image courtesy of Kevin M. Sullivan. (Check the 1975 police photo for confirmation.)

Believe me, in a thousand years, I never would have expected such a thing to ever come my way. I can’t think of anything more odd or surreal.

ET: You mentioned that you think you’ve been able to answer some longstanding questions about Bundy’s career. Can you give us some hints? What don’t people know about Ted Bundy that they ought to know?

I must admit, when I first decided to write a book about the crimes, I wasn’t sure what I’d find, so the first thing I had to do was read every book ever written about Bundy, which took the better portion of three or four months.

From this I took a trip to Utah to again meet with Thompson and check out the sites pertaining to Bundy and the murders in that state. Next came the acquisition of case files from the various states and the tracking down of those detectives who participated in the hunt for the elusive killer.

Now, no one could have been more surprised than me to begin discovering what I was discovering about some of these murders. But as I kept hunting down the right people and the right documents, I was able to confirm these “finds” at every turn. And while I cannot reveal everything here, It’s all in the book in great detail. Indeed, you could say that my book is not a biography in the truest sense, but rather an in-depth look at Bundy and the murders from a vantage point that is quite unique. I wish I could delve further into these things now , but I must wait until it’s published.

The Bundy story has a magnetic villain and a host of victims … was there a hero? Was there a lesson?

The real heroes in this story are the detectives who worked day and night for years to bring Ted Bundy to justice. And if there’s a lesson to be learned from all of this, it is this: It doesn’t matter how handsome or articulate a person might be, or how nicely they smile at you, for behind it all, there could reside the most diabolical person you’ll ever meet! We need to remember this.

But how can you act on that lesson without living in a continual state of terror? Bundy strikes me as so far outside our normal experience, even the normal experience of criminality, that I’m inclined to wonder how much can be generalized from him.

Actually, (and I might say, thank God here!) people as “successful” as Ted Bundy don’t come our way very often. I mean, the guy was a rising star in the Republican Party in Washington, had influential friends, a law student, and certainly appeared to be going places in life. Some were even quite envious of his ascension in life. However, it was all a well-placed mask that he wore to cover his true feelings and intentions. On the outside he was perfect, but on the inside a monster. He just didn’t fit the mold we’re used to when we think of a terrible killer, does he?

Now, there are those among us — sociopaths — who can kill or do all manner of terrible things in life and maintain the nicest smile upon their faces, but again, just beneath the surface ticks the heart of a monster, or predator, or what ever you might want to call them. Having said that, I’m not a suspicious person by nature, and so I personally judge people by their outward appearance until shown otherwise. Still, it’s difficult (if not impossible) to see the “real” individual behind the person they present to us on a daily basis.

You worked with case detectives in researching your book. How did the Ted Bundy case affect the way law enforcement has subsequently investigated serial killers? If they had it to do over again, what’s the thing you think they’d have done differently?

They all agree that today, DNA would play a part of the investigation that wasn’t available then. However, in the early portion of the murders, Bundy made few if any mistakes, as he had done his homework so as to avoid detection. As such, even this wouldn’t be a panacea when it came to a very mobile killer like Bundy who understood the very real limitations sometimes surrounding homicide investigations.

I can’t help but ask about these detectives as human beings, too. Clearly they’re in a position to deal with the heart of darkness in the human soul day in and day out and still lead normal lives … is a Ted Bundy the kind of killer that haunts or scars investigators years later, or is this something most can set aside as all in a day’s work?

They are, first of all, very nice people. And you can’t be around them (either in person, or through numerous phone calls or emails) for very long before you understand how dedicated they are (or were) in their careers as police officers. They are honorable people, with a clear sense of duty, and without such people, we, as a society, would be in dire circumstances indeed.

Even before Bundy came along, these men were veteran investigators who had seen many bad things in life, so they carried a toughness which allowed them to deal with the situations they came up against in a professional manner. That said, I remember Jerry Thompson telling me how he looked at Ted one day and thought how much he reminded him of a monster, or a vampire of sorts. And my book contains a number of exchanges between the two men (including a chilling telephone call) which demonstrate why he felt this way

How about for you, as a writer — was there a frightening, creepy, traumatic moment in your research that really shook you? Was there an emotional toll for you?

Absolutely. But the degree of “shock”, if you will, depends (at least for me) on what I know as I first delve into each murder. In the Bundy cases I had a general knowledge of how Bundy killed, so there wasn’t a great deal that caught me by surprise, as it were. Even so, as a writer, you tend to get to know the victims very well through the case files, their family members or friends, and so on. Hence, I’ll continue to carry with me many of the details of their lives and deaths for the remainder of my life. And so, lasting changes are a part of what we do.

However, I did a story a few years back about a 16 year old girl who was horribly murdered here in Kentucky, and this case did cause me to wake up in the night in a cold sweat. Perhaps it was because I have a daughter that was, at the time, only a few years younger than this girl, and that some of what transpired did catch me off guard, so to speak, as I began uncovering just what had happened to this very nice kid.

Watch for Kevin M. Sullivan’s forthcoming The Bundy Murders: A Comprehensive History from McFarland in summer or fall of 2009.

* In fact, the term “serial killer” was coined in the 1970’s by FBI profiler Robert Ressler, as an improvement on the sometimes inaccurate category of “stranger killer”.

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  1. The books basically sum up all the detailed confessions Bundy made. His scheme was to trade time for bodies, so he only ‘fessed up to murders where no remains were found. And not only that, but basically only one to each law enforcement agency.

  2. Hi Shane,

    The pictures I have seen were shown to me by an individual who secured them from the detective who worked the case. The victim was Laura Aime, and there were, as I recall, about 4 or 5 different shots at the actual crime scene. Now, the only reason the detective made actual copies of these, he was told they were for an academic type archives, pertaining to law enforcement. And frankly, I’m not certain he would have done so had the request been other than an institution, etc. Personally, I don’t think these should be for general release; at least not while any family members of these girls are still alive. However, I would hate to see them “lost” too, as they are an important part of this case. And so many things do get lost from important criminal cases, I assure you.

    I have also seen photos from the Chi Omega crime scene which have never been released. Over the years, of course, some have hit the public at various sites, but there are still others that haven’t seen the proverbial light of day.

    In my book, I do have some additional things (confessions) from Bundy concerning the murder of Caryn Campbell, and additional confessions about the murder of Julie Cunningham; both of which came from Mike Fisher, the Colorado investigator. Plus, I brought to light the killing of Lynette Culver from the official record (confessions of Bundy, police reports, etc) and it is very detailed.

    I don’t know anything about the web site you refer to, but I’ll check it out.

    Take care,

    Kevin

  3. kevin you said you had seen oictures of bundy crime scenes that would probably never see the light of day, how come some crime scene photos get out and some dont and is there a way to get them out… second at this website http://www.kirotv.com/news/4182402/detail.html it said they had recieved FOUR hour of bundy confessions but basically just have the snippets we all heard on you tube… since i have read your book yet… did he give other in depth confessions like the hawkins one??

  4. BTW – I am just wondering, assuming horrible possibility of Bundy being at large and never being apprehended – would he ever STOP?

    His crimes was of sexual origin – so – as with age the libido goes down and the same thing with sexual activity – would he just stop killing – because of weakening of his sick-sexual temper?

    Or maybe oppositely – he would reinforce his madness?
    Sex was only part of his “acting out” – as he called it.

    Do you think – would he do his macabre – as a 50-60 year old guy?

    On the other hand, I once read about horrible Ukrainian / USSR children killer whose prime years was well after 50.

  5. What I posted in post 2027 – was meant to be a (awkward because of my poor English) complement for Lorraine – and that’s all.

    But I admit – it may sound arrogant for others.

    Naturally I did nothing special to site – comparing to Lorraine, Kevin and many others.

    I am sorry – that I have made people dislike me here – I hope I can fix it somehow – but I should have thought about it dozens posts ago.

    I am sorry I am interpreted as the one who who desires “importance” – as I am actually seeing myself as the last person to desire such a thing.

  6. Vidor–

    P.S. My pic of Bundy’s kit was also reproduced for my first In Cold Blog post.

  7. Vidor,

    As far as I know (and I remember this from somewhere in my research) the story of the pic of Bundy and the lady is as follows: Bundy knew a guy named Bartholomew (hope I spelled that name correctly) and this is his sister. And yes, it was apparently from his time in Utah.

    Also, any time you want to post a current pic of his kit for comparison, I would assume it’s okay to post the one at ET. I know it’s been at ET since Jan. of 2009, and SKC has it at their site, so I don’t see a problem with you having it as well. Even though it has been reproduced in my book, I doubt that it would be an issue with McFarland. Of course, I have other pics which haven’t been published before, so I could certainly give the okay for that particular picture.

    See ya…

  8. Thanks to everybody who has said nice things about the Wikipedia page. Yes I have edited that page twice as much as anyone else, I’m afraid to say. In fact it was the Wikipedia page and my desire to improve it that really started me researching the Bundy case. It was definitely what led me to “The Only Living Witness”, which shocked me by being so much better than Anne Rule’s crappy book.

    Here’s how the Wikipedia page looked when I started.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ted_Bundy&diff=prev&oldid=60681586

    Without bragging too much, I think I’ve made it better.

    Regarding the murder kit photo, Kevin, yes it was the picture that you linked to here that I uploaded to the page. Thank you very much for providing a nice big photo of the image. The Salt Lake Sheriff didn’t even have a copy of their own photo? Fascinating. You’d think they’d keep more stuff, seeing as how it’s probably the biggest case they ever handled.

    Yes, I did have to fight to keep that photo, as it’s not in the public domain and there’s no obvious license. Luckily the admins that run Wikipedia agreed with those of us who wanted to keep it (everybody else editing the page) and not with the one unpleasant person who tried to get it deleted. You’re quite right that the SLSO wouldn’t be at all likely to try and post some kind of copyright claim.

    I’ve been sorely tempted to post that color picture of him at the kitchen sink grinning evilly at the camera while the blond lady that fits the Ted Bundy Victim Profile to a T washes a dish–but alas that would probably get deleted. We guessed that was from his Utah days, right? I’m pretty sure we talked about that somewhere in this 2,051 post behemoth.

  9. Topelius,

    I would say that people were people, as much so then as now, lol. I mean, some people did the one night stand thing, others didn’t. With the Haight-Ashbury, flower power, hippie influence, I would say that things were pretty liberal in general, though.

    However, I don’t think that was ever Bundy’s approach… I think he suggested a sort of “impromptu date” to go have a beer, or get a bite to eat…. I (and Kathy, I am sure) would not necessarily have taken such a suggestion as an invitation for a “one night stand”, and had he come across as being suggestive in that way, I am sure Kathy would never have agreed to go with him.

    Lorraine

  10. JRJ,

    Yes, in fact I do 🙂 I had a dinner date the following night, and had just bought a new dress for the occassion. I tried it on for Kathy, to get her opinion, and she said “I have the perfect bracelet to go with that, let me go get it!…”

    Oh, and I just determined that I plugged my camara battery into a dead electrical outlet, so I switched it, and it is now charging for real. Picture later….

    Lorraine

  11. Lorraine,

    Thanks once again. Do you recall the circumstances under which Kathy gave you the bracelet?

    JRJ

  12. Dear Lorraine, no, I’m not using AOL now except to pick up my mail. I’m using Google Chrome (similar to i.e) to access sites on. I’ll keep trying – I had no problem in seeing your student ID (I’ve lost mine, thank God!) Fiz.

  13. Str8 outta Helsinki.

    Anyone here read Ann Rule`s The Stranger Beside Me`s 1980 version? How accurate it is? Did Ann Rule state in that book that he believes Ted really is a serial killer? It would be interesting to read it but I haven`t found one. Something else that`s interesting in that version?

    Lorraine, were people liberal or conservative in West Coast in the 70`s? Was it socially acceptable for women to do what they call “one night stands” at that time? I`m asking this because some girls left with Bundy pretty easily. I thought women didn`t do that with guys they didn`t know 30-40 years ago, but apparently I wasn`t completely right on that.

    Take care Lorraine, I like your internet persona very much.

  14. Fiz,

    I have the free version of AOL… for my email, homepage, etc, much to my daughter’s dismay, lol. People who really know computers despise AOL. However, 90% of the problems I have had navigating the internet have been because of my free AOL browser. My daughter talked me into making Internet Explorer my main browser about 6 months ago, and I have far fewer issues. When I told Jen, my daughter, on the phone just now, that you have AOL, she said, “That’s the problem!” She suggests that you completely shut down the AOL Browser, enter ET via Internet Explorer, and try the link again. Hope this helps.

    JRJ, I will be happy to take and post a picture of the bracelet, but at the mo, my camara battery is dead as a doornail. I’ll charge it up and try to get a pic posted this evening.

    Lorraine

  15. Paul UK states that Susan Raincourt once played tennis with Bundy; can anyone substantiate this claim?

    Lorraine, would it be possible for you to post a picture of the bracelet Kathy gave you?

    Thanks,

    JRJ

  16. Lorraine, I’ve only just seen your new message, for which I thank you. I suspect a lot of my problems is that we have a number of cookies which do not seem to work properly. We’ve had terrible problems in the UK with AOL ever since the US branch sold it off to Carphone Warehouse, which was and still is, a very good cell phone provider, but that doesn’t mean they are a good website operator! it was costing us £30 a month for no service and the “customer helpline” was in India and was very difficult to use. So we changed, but I retained my e-mail name.
    Jason, the new pagination scheme is great and must have taken ages – thank you!

  17. Richard,

    I do, but the report is somewhere in my extensive files. Now, I have promised another ET frequent reader to post the other homicide and missing person material which may be related to Bundy. I will do it, but I have been swamped with other duties and I’m trying to get a little extra time to locate these things.

    So as soon as I can locate that particular report, I’ll post it for you.

  18. Kevin,

    In 1027 you say you have a missing persons report of a woman who disappeared from a CA university that could have been one of Bundy’s. Do you have the date she went missing?

  19. Bart–

    You said the following:

    “No darkness here any more – regardless of any upcoming posts”

    Well, sir, there was no darkness here before you arrived, and there will be no darkness after you leave. Why you want to build yourself up to this level of importance (and deceive yourself) i’ll never know.

    And again:

    “Look what we did to this site”.

    You did not do anything special at this site; except , of course, in your attempt to make yourself better or more important than anyone else who stops by ET. You have a bizarre and inflated view of yourself, Bart, if that’s even your real name, and the only consistent thing you’ve managed to accomplish is make a number of people dislike you.

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  21. Fiz,

    I want you to know I haven’t forgotten about trying to get some ideas from my daughter to help you access the pictures. She was called out-of-state on business the day I became aware of your problem getting in, and will be back Thursday. She has been able to resolve any and all problems I’ve had in my 12 years of “computing”, so I’m thinking she might know some “secret”. Worth a try, anyway. Also, just curious…. where in the UK are you? My daughter makes frequent business trips to Staines, and she wants to take me along one of these days. I have always wanted to go there! I was a teen-ager when Twiggy and Carnaby Street were THE THING. So I’d LOVE to go!

    Lorraine

    Lorraine

  22. Vidor, many congratulations on the Wiki page on TB. You’ve made it look effortless and I know how hard it is to get writing down to that level and how much research it took.

  23. Your welcome, Lorraine 🙂
    “Love is all around” lol…
    That’s the darkest nightmare of every bloody sociopath 🙂
    Look what we did to this site 🙂

  25. I do not know why I can no longer get this site to refresh! I keep trying, getting the same results, but then the next time I post I find a ton of new posts that I was unable to see before. So, this is sort of a test, so I can see if there are any new posts. Anyone have any “hints” on refreshing the page? It has only been a problem for about a week… prior to that, simply “right click and refresh” worked just fine.

    Lorraine

  26. Yeah, I am quite newcomer to this site – but to me – Lorraine really brought here a lot of Light.
    No darkness here any more – regardless of any upcoming posts.

  27. Thank you, Monica,

    I love the fact that so many men take an interest in the Bundy murders, and have so much to add here, but from my perspective, I believe a woman (we are, after all, PHYSICALLY, the weaker sex) can better understand how this has affected me. I am not looking for sympathy at all, but understanding has been a very long time coming, and very much appreciated. Its not exactly a topic I have ever been able to talk to my family about…. worry my parents and scare my kids to death? Nor is it a great opening line when meeting a new friend….. I do appreciate you all. And Bart, I, for one, do miss you 🙂

    Lorraine

  28. Reading your recent comments, Lorraine, i was deeply touched. I don’t know what to say, but simply that, like others here, my heart goes out to you for all that you have been through. I mean that sincerely.

    Vidor, so it is you responsible for that great Wikipedia page on Ted Bundy? The information there now is so much more up to date, and accurate. You did a fine job!

  29. Hi, all

    I am during a very hectic week at work, business trips almost everyday – plus endless discussions with my boss – who has all capabilities to become notorious a serial killer – if only chat could be lethal.

    But unfortunately – all his ‘victims’ (including me) remain alive – only to go through this pain again and again.

    Anyway I barely manage to review this forum, not to mention posting.

    But I think you don’t miss much – without my contribution. 🙂

    See ya – and specially thanks to Lorraine for her kind “thanks all” post

    Bart

  32. Please excuse my ignorance, but, Vidor, what is “your site”? Seems I am missing something everyone else knows?

    Thanks, Lorraine

  33. Vidor–

    That’s too bad about the fight to keep the photo. When I contacted the Salt Lake County Sheriff’s Office concerning the photo for my book (they are the “owners” of said pic) they gave me the okay to reproduce the picture, but then they stated that they no longer have a copy, and that they can’t say for sure they ever owned it! This, of course, is coming from the current guardians of the records dept, and they have very little original material from this case left in their files. I know that sounds absurd, but it’s true. Indeed, the very pic on your site came from Jerry Thompson, and the hand writing along the bottom is by me. So for my book, I gave credit to the King County Archives (they own a copy) and the Salt lake county Sheriff’s Office. This was the only safe thing to do, in my view. But really, who on earth would complain about your using it, I have no idea. SLCSO? No. King Co. Archives? I doubt it very much.

  34. Thank you. I wish Wikipedia wasn’t so touchy about fair use, though. We had to fight like crazy to keep that photo of his murder bag.

  36. Hi again,

    I just want to thank you all for being here. The day my son called, and said “Mom, did you know you are in a book?”, changed my life. Something I had literally blocked (as much as one’s mind will allow) for almost 36 years was suddenly hitting me in the face, and I was terrified I would go back to the way I was, mentally and emotionally, 36 years ago.

    I basically attacked Kevin (truly sorry for that, my dear ;)), for now MAKING me think about it all again, but after several exchanged emails, I decided it was about time to deal with it, and Kevihjn helped me every bit of the way. His suggestion that I join the group here is the best thing that could have ever happened. I honestly could not have gotten through the emotions, memories, and new found knowledge these past few months without all of you. From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU!!!

    Lorraine

  38. By the way, it is 11th anniversary of Columbine massacre.

    May the victims rest in peace.

  39. Lorraine, I don’t know whether this will be any comfort, but I had hideous dreams in my first pregnancy, usually to do with unfinished problems from the past. Some of them were very violent and bothered me so much that I spoke to my doctor who said that waves of pregnancy hormones come at night and that it was actually quite normal and did indeed have to do with unfinished problems from the past. Since you’d lost your dear friend Kathy, I can see how this would intensively affect you. My best friend from uni is my youngest’s god-mother and very dear to me. As soon as I met her I felt I had always known her. If anything happened to her, I would feel the same as you about pulling the switch. I think you still wearing Kathy’s bracelet is beautiful.x x x

  40. Thanks for your answer. Made me think.

    I am for instance, like 99 % of Europeans, an atheist and against capital punishment in any cases, but I can see where you are coming from. Let`s face it, you lost a loved one. This is not disrespecting you.

    Arguments fight, not people. Or something like that.

    Thanks again for your time.

  41. You know, just to elaborate on my last comment… its not exactly “Christian” to wish someone dead, or to hope they rot in Hell, but in Bundy’s case, I DID!

  42. Topelius,

    If they’d have let me pull the switch, they’d have had to pry me off of it afterwards. It was a very emotional day for me, indeed! Thanks for asking… I never realized I was capable of such hatred until that day.

    Lorraine

  43. Yo Lorraine, hi again! 🙂

    I know you`ve made it very clear that you blocked Bundy out of your mind (not sure if those are right words, excuse my English) for years up until this year. However, you must have noticed that Bundy was being executed in 1989? What did you feel then? Relief probably?

    Thank you and take care!

  45. Lorraine–

    Not only is wearing the bracelet NOT CREEPY, it shows how much you thought (think!) of Kathy. I applaud you for doing so.

  46. Hi Barry–

    Thanks for the kinds words, my friend.

    Yes, the suicide thoughts may indeed be true. I have read about them before, and I know Bill Hagmaier mentioned to someone how Bundy asked him one day something about what he (Bundy) could say to God about what he’d done. So I’m sure things got really strange for him as he considered his own (and quickly approaching) death. Maybe he just wanted a quick exit by his own hand? it’s all guess work now.

  47. Hi all,

    Bart, yes, BART was in existence in the ’70’s, but far more accessable to Kathy than to myself. By the time the BART system was useful to those in my area of Marin County, I had indeed become an Oregonian. As to your question about why Kathy and I (as Californians) saw ourselves as “more worldly” than our Oregonian dorm-mates, it was partly our proximity to San Francisco (the whole Haight-Ashbury thing still in full swing), but mostly the difference in population of the 2 states. Our respective cities were, in fact cities, and had a much more “city” feel to them, whereas Corvallis, even to this day, has much more a “town” feel. Oregonians are basically more “nature” oriented, fishing, hunting and camping being very popular. While we have many cities here in Oregon, I still think of California as “cement, steel and glass”, with a far more transient population than Oregon, which is more “trees, wildlife and streams”. Bundy would have had a much more difficult time carrying out his deeds in California, I believe.

    I also wanted to mention, to Vidor: I knew you weren’t suggesting that you post my pictures elsewhere, I just thought I’d throw my opinion in since the subject came up. And thank you for your kind comments; I needed to make that trip to Corvallis for my own piece of mind, but thought it might be interesting for you guys to “see the place”. And I don’t think that such a curiosity is unhealthy, as Kevin said: anyone who suspects that their curiosity is bordering on unhealthy needs to make some changes! Also, yes, the area labeled “C” in #7 photo is where I believe Bundy’s VW was parked. That same area is labeled in a couple of other pics from a different vantage point, right next to the large grassy area.

    In post #1986 Monica asked about dreams (nightmares). After Kathy’s skull was found I was plagued by the most horrific nightmares you can imagine. This was based on the fact that I was the last to have spoken to Kathy, so, I obviously was in Bundy’s “midst” at least at some point. I got married in 1976, and in early 1978 learned I was pregnant. The nightmares came back with a vengence as I began to question how I could EVER protect this little person inside me from a “World FULL of Bundys”. (Its amazing what fear can do to one’s mind.) I had not had another nightmare again until after I told Kevin about my library experience the night Kathy was abducted. At that point I was no longer looking at it as having been “in Bundy’s midst”, but perhaps as being Bundy’s “target”. I have played through the “what ifs….” a milliion times, and every morning I wake up I thank God I am alive.

    Oddly, I have had several dreams about Kathy lately, but not scary ones. They are always set in college time, but they are enjoyable, sometimes bringing back memories I had long since forgotten. The day Kathy was abducted she had loaned me a bracelet, which I now wear all the time. It reminds me of the good times with Kathy. I hope that doesn’t sound creepy to anyone, but wearing the bracelet is strangely comforting to me, and I think she would approve.

    Lorraine

  48. Vidor–

    If you pick up a copy of THE KILLER NEXT DOOR, it shows the the courthouse and identifies the window. You should be able to get one for a buck plus shipping.

    let me know how things go in Colorado, and please post the pics too.

    Also, if you’d like my email address for any back-and-forth discussions or questions, etc, just ask the headsman to pass your email address along to me and I’ll contact you. P.S. You’ve got a really great Wiki page on the Bundy case!

  49. “First, there is nothing wrong, or odd, in following the trail of this case. To see the actual locations where these crimes occurred gives one a perspective that is hard to obtain otherwise.”

    If all goes well the wife and I will be roadtripping thorugh Colorado this July. I hope to stop in Snowmass and get a photo of the walkway at the Wildwood Lodge where Caryn Campbell met Bundy. I would like to get a picture of the window he jumped out of in Aspen but I have no idea which window it was and there don’t appear to be any older photos out there identifying the window.

  50. Great last post there kevin.

    Anyways congrats on nearly 2000 posts. Been one hell of a rollercoaster lol and i hope the ride doesnt finish for a good while to come.

    My question kevin is regards to bundys supposedly sucidal thoughts before his execution which he eventually decided against it. Do u deem this to be true?

    In a sense bundy believed he would never be executed so i guess there was no reason to commit suicide in his eyes.

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